Another frame ID please

Discussion in 'What is my unknown Cannondale?' started by Scooter, Feb 1, 2018.

  1. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    Hi all, I wondered if anyone can help ID my frame please.
    I have briefly done some research online but I’m still not 100% sure on the model, I’ve been informed that it may be from around 1999 - 2001 era and possibly one of the F series ?
    The serial number does’nt really relate to any on the data base on here?
    Here’s some pics .
    C933DFB3-4594-4482-A2FB-DB8E7D58BB6B.jpeg E672DBF2-7758-41DE-B9EE-ED36E99E69DD.jpeg AAEB003A-EAB5-4ABB-9826-7340792AB510.jpeg AAD69160-6821-4084-96DE-1C00CDCA5C43.jpeg 02EA8971-6296-4667-A84D-BD774341D538.jpeg 0717AC71-7483-4049-9C83-066ADB6D0943.jpeg

    Non rear rack mounts on the mono seat stay
    Disc and caliper Brake mounts
    Cable guides on top of top tube
    The remnant of paint inside the B.B. is red .
    It weighs 3.4 lb (1548 grammes)
    Would the forks be Ultra fatty headshok? They had the quarter lockout lever on the top and I believe 80mm of travel

    Hope you guys can help me out on this one , my plan is to build her up soon as poss after I’ve chose a colour and hopefully I’d it

    Thanks guys, scott.
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2018
  2. Brian

    Brian Member Staff Member

    The frame is a 2000. (L) is the date code. It looks like the original paint was a red or brownish. If you look thru the 2k and 2001 catalog to best match the color. and measure frame geometry. basically right now you have a blank slate...

    do you have the parts to rebuild the fork?
     
  3. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    Great thanks Brian , I’ll take a look at those and check the measurements , the paint remnants are red as you say .
    Yes I have all the parts to rebuild the forks, I purchased a set of new needle bearings as one of the old strips had broke .
    Its been a few months now since I stripped the forks so I will need to refresh and cross reference on the procedure of assembly, it looks pretty fiddly and technical ? I was going to do dummy run before powder coating but now I’m thinking just do it after. It may not be a success as they weren’t working that well before removal but I’ll give it a go .
    I have some pictures of one of the parts inside the fork that is showing some wear and I’ll need to get some advice on this piece so I’ll post some pictures of this soon , see what you think?
    Thanks Brian .
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2018
  4. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    So Ive had search through those catalogues and although I can find any geometry I think I have narrowed it to these two which both came in viper red colour and both disc compatible.

    2000 F700 caad3
    Weight 3.7 lbs
    Headshok fatty fork DL 70mm air sprung / oil damp travel

    2001 F600 caad3
    Weight ?
    Headshok super fatty DL 80mm travel , lock out on the fly

    I’m sure when I measured the travel on my forks they were 80mm before I stripped them and they do seem very beefy . So I’m leaning toward the 2001 F600 ..
     
  5. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    About that worn part in the fork,
    Here’s some pics..
    1F2EAD35-8308-4441-9FC8-F3CEFCCC6B71.jpeg 4EBFB260-7D61-4FAB-B34C-35235B8BDE97.jpeg 2660471B-B663-4AD8-9B55-9D6F2EE9F329.jpeg 0A30B963-1F00-413D-93FE-F6F0BE6DA485.jpeg 59FE8B78-494A-436E-9E51-E6224C4C852F.jpeg CD5B6354-7E69-4B8F-AA23-0362674F86CB.jpeg 8651BDBB-657E-462F-950F-E21C42E2A43C.jpeg 66219BE5-4D34-4A16-B776-433B6BFA1ACB.jpeg 53F13E9B-BF10-412D-BBBC-9D6D7C0D271B.jpeg
    You can see some burring around the inside of the collar,
    I think this piece caused one of needle bearings to migrate downwards and broke it.
    I’m wondering wether to assemble again like this or wether to insert that cassette spacer which I have shown ?
    I have carefully shaped it so it fits snugly inside I’ve shaped it so the inside of the ring has flats on it that follow the shape of the steerer tube but doesn’t rub it, it’s 1mm thick and hopefully would stop it happening again ?
    Then again it could cause other issues..if it starts to rub
    The original collar part is able to rotate around the steerer tube quite freely (I’m unsure if this is right? And the ring that I have shaped does not because of the flats , but still has some free movement to slide up and down.
    I’m guessing that the bearings should stay up inside this collar when it’s in action .

    Few.. hope this makes sense

    Scott.
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2018
  6. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    A few more with the shaped ring in position

    80774492-4D6E-48FE-8971-47A7F2196C38.jpeg 3BE265B0-CCBA-4C6C-948E-87D582BF0606.jpeg 19FE1281-14A5-4404-B770-2983F9DEBC4F.jpeg
     
  7. black lightning 1987

    black lightning 1987 Member

    Location:
    NW IL
    What about a 2000 F900? It was a disc frame and had fade paint with red at the BB.
     
  8. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    Hi black lightening ,
    yes I did consider that as well , but then I ruled it out after noticing the top tube cable guide is sat underneath the tube rather than on the top. Mine & both the F600 & F700 are on top.
    And I’ve noticed that I still have two very small remnants of red paint just on weld at the fork crown .

    Would you have any idea why mine doesn’t have the rack mounts at the seat stay ?

    Thanks scott
     
  9. black lightning 1987

    black lightning 1987 Member

    Location:
    NW IL
    It seems bikes sold in Europe are often hard to ID. Colors often seem to vary from USA spec, so perhaps it's best to ignore that angle. CAAD3 frames appear to have the cable stops on top, CAAD4 and CAAD5 have them well below center-line of the tube. Your frame was made in July, so I'd guess it's a 2001 model. The 2001 F600 looks right, but it appears to have rack bosses in the stay. Only explanation I have (and just a guess) is that it's a Euro-spec thing.
     
  10. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    Thanks black lightening , but what about the serial number LG , Brian has dated it as the 2000 model , L=2000 , G=July .

    Looking at the 2000 catalogue and disregarding the colour ive come up with these three which have the super fatty DL forks.

    F800 Full Caliper & disc mounts
    F700 No fork Caliper mounts
    F500 Full Caliper & disc mounts


    If the f700 specifically came with no Caliper mounts and euro colours could be different then that leaves the f800 & F500
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2018
  11. black lightning 1987

    black lightning 1987 Member

    Location:
    NW IL
    That's the date the frame was produced. New models came out late in the summer. Being July production it may have been a 2001 model rather than a 2000. I have a bone stock 1998 Silk Road, everything fits the catalog description. It is stamped IK, so November 1997 production; also a 1999 R4000 stamped JI so September 1998 production; and a 1998 R4000 that is coded JC, March 1998. July is a hard call, I think it could be either model year. We need to identify the model years of some mid summer produced frames to have a better idea when the model year switch took place.

    Planning a restoration? I would think you could just take your choice of the models that fit the frame details, then paint and build to suit.
     
  12. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    Ok thanks , yes that does make sense
    I’m planning to build it up , it won’t be stock though as i only have the Stem , seat pin & Clamp. The rest will be a mixture from my old Specialized stumpjumper, SRAM 9 Speed groupset, mavic cross ride, wheels & probably avid juicy hydraulics.

    The hardest part is going to be the fork rebuild, it needs to be powder coated before rebuilding them so I just hope it’s successful.

    Would you have any idea on decal sets. There’s a few on eBay but quite limited for choice.

    Thanks scott
     
  13. black lightning 1987

    black lightning 1987 Member

    Location:
    NW IL
    I think there's another thread here that mentions someone that does headshok work.

    I don't know where you can get the quad-wrap style decals. Velocals has a partial set that is close to those used on some early 2000s bikes:

    http://www.velocals.com/cannondale-bicycle-decal-set/

    You might check with Alan Wanta, Keith Anderson, Joe Bell, or someone in the UK that does a lot of repaints.

    This set from a seller in Belgium would look about right on your frame:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cannondale-Decals-Set/263477659621?hash=item3d587e07e5:g:moEAAOSw2FxZ3Tc6
     
  14. Scooter

    Scooter New Member

    Location:
    UK
    Ok thanks black lightening , you’ve been a great help and just what I needed.

    So Ive just ordered my powder coat from prismatic , now it’s just wait unti it arrives then send it all off for powdering.

    I’ll report back when it’s done and hopefully have the forks mounted and working .

    Thanks guys , back soon .
     

Share This Page